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		<title>Comment on Robert Sheldrake: The Science Delusion by Sigurd Andersen</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/01/robert-sheldrake-the-science-delusion/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sigurd Andersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever looked into Goethe&#039;s approach to scientific knowledge? See, for instance The Wholeness of Nature by Henri Bortoft or Goethe&#039;s Way of Science, edited by David Seamon. Then have a look at The Metamorphosis of Plants by Goethe (there&#039;s a new edition with beautiful photographs that complement Goethe&#039;s original work). I found a link to your site via Mark Harris&#039; site (Mark&#039;s a close, long-time friend).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever looked into Goethe&#8217;s approach to scientific knowledge? See, for instance The Wholeness of Nature by Henri Bortoft or Goethe&#8217;s Way of Science, edited by David Seamon. Then have a look at The Metamorphosis of Plants by Goethe (there&#8217;s a new edition with beautiful photographs that complement Goethe&#8217;s original work). I found a link to your site via Mark Harris&#8217; site (Mark&#8217;s a close, long-time friend).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wiring error apparently explains away FTL neutrino observations by D. C. Toedt</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/22/wiring-error-apparently-explains-away-ftl-neutrino-observations/#comment-2536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. C. Toedt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;I wonder if there’s a similar analog to this sort of process in Theology. I suppose it would be declaring a certain view to be a “dead-end” – what is technically termed “heresy”. But that process hardly goes as quickly as this scientific process has. &lt;/em&gt;

The FTL neutrino saga offers some useful comparisons with theology.  The OPERA team&#039;s initial neutrino observations suggested that something utterly new had happened --- something startling, unprecedented, and contrary to all previous experience.  

The OPERA team didn&#039;t go out and proclaim their initial observations as a final, unchallengeable revelation.  On the contrary, the team announced its observations with great caution, and relentlessly subjected them to critical scrutiny.  The team actively sought out alternative explanations; it also encouraged others to do likewise, and to check whether their initial results could be replicated. And when that didn&#039;t happen, the team didn&#039;t insist that their followers should keep the faith because vindication would come any day now. 

Sure, the team members might well have indulged themselves in wishful thinking, a desire for recognition, etc.  But they didn&#039;t let those completely-human longings override their (putatively) highest commitment:  to the truth, whatever the truth turned out to be (hat tip: the Rev. Barbara Brown Taylor). 

It&#039;s not clear that the institutional church works that way --- or ever has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I wonder if there’s a similar analog to this sort of process in Theology. I suppose it would be declaring a certain view to be a “dead-end” – what is technically termed “heresy”. But that process hardly goes as quickly as this scientific process has. </em></p>
<p>The FTL neutrino saga offers some useful comparisons with theology.  The OPERA team&#8217;s initial neutrino observations suggested that something utterly new had happened &#8212; something startling, unprecedented, and contrary to all previous experience.  </p>
<p>The OPERA team didn&#8217;t go out and proclaim their initial observations as a final, unchallengeable revelation.  On the contrary, the team announced its observations with great caution, and relentlessly subjected them to critical scrutiny.  The team actively sought out alternative explanations; it also encouraged others to do likewise, and to check whether their initial results could be replicated. And when that didn&#8217;t happen, the team didn&#8217;t insist that their followers should keep the faith because vindication would come any day now. </p>
<p>Sure, the team members might well have indulged themselves in wishful thinking, a desire for recognition, etc.  But they didn&#8217;t let those completely-human longings override their (putatively) highest commitment:  to the truth, whatever the truth turned out to be (hat tip: the Rev. Barbara Brown Taylor). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear that the institutional church works that way &#8212; or ever has.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick take on polity by Richard Elliott</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/09/quick-take-on-polity/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not just the anti-Establishment view of some of the colonists (and it was only some of the colonists),  but the rise of lay leadership in Anglican colonies brought about by the clergy shortage and the values of the revolutionaries.  Our polity is essentially conciliar rather than Episcopal and other parts of the communion (and many o our bishops) don&#039;t seem to understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not just the anti-Establishment view of some of the colonists (and it was only some of the colonists),  but the rise of lay leadership in Anglican colonies brought about by the clergy shortage and the values of the revolutionaries.  Our polity is essentially conciliar rather than Episcopal and other parts of the communion (and many o our bishops) don&#8217;t seem to understand.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting an HP P1102w to work as an AirPrint printer by Sean Bartel</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2011/09/16/getting-an-hp-p1102w-to-work-as-an-airprint-printer/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Bartel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay I&#039;m not the only one with p1102w nightmares! Something your article does not mention though that I have found to be true on my Vista 32 bit HP desktop is that every time the printer shuts off or the power goes out, BLAMMO! no more wireless connectivity. This may be fixed in a future firmware update, but so far I have been through three hour+ long calls to HP customer service/tech support to troubleshoot when my wifi connectivity is lost. For now I have resigned myself to uninstalling all drivers then reinstalling them in USB mode and then reinstalling them again in wifi mode every time this happens (power goes out briefly where I live at least once a month or so). Thanks for letting me vent here, and if anybody knows how to keep this from happening please share! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay I&#8217;m not the only one with p1102w nightmares! Something your article does not mention though that I have found to be true on my Vista 32 bit HP desktop is that every time the printer shuts off or the power goes out, BLAMMO! no more wireless connectivity. This may be fixed in a future firmware update, but so far I have been through three hour+ long calls to HP customer service/tech support to troubleshoot when my wifi connectivity is lost. For now I have resigned myself to uninstalling all drivers then reinstalling them in USB mode and then reinstalling them again in wifi mode every time this happens (power goes out briefly where I live at least once a month or so). Thanks for letting me vent here, and if anybody knows how to keep this from happening please share! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparing the *Church* for a mobile-first world by Paul Martin</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/13/preparing-the-church-for-a-mobile-first-world/#comment-2499</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I think about how the web has changed in the past few years, I am convinced that it is getting much more difficult to put up a respectable web presence. With mobile devices we are dealing with a much broader array of screen sizes than we have ever seen before. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t see any help coming in the near future. Large churches, cathedrals and dioceses are doing fine, but the small parishes are being left behind. Ultimately, it is going to take an informal group of volunteers with (probably) no funding to do the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think about how the web has changed in the past few years, I am convinced that it is getting much more difficult to put up a respectable web presence. With mobile devices we are dealing with a much broader array of screen sizes than we have ever seen before. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t see any help coming in the near future. Large churches, cathedrals and dioceses are doing fine, but the small parishes are being left behind. Ultimately, it is going to take an informal group of volunteers with (probably) no funding to do the job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speaking of going mobile… Wayfarer is here by Lisa Fry</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/15/speaking-of-going-mobile-wayfarer-is-here/#comment-2498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Fry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I just found out (after reading this and asking) that my church- St. Mark&#039;s, Little Rock- has been working on an app for about a year. I talked again to the rector and we are going to light a fire under them. As someone with a non-app phone (still) I needed to read this. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I just found out (after reading this and asking) that my church- St. Mark&#8217;s, Little Rock- has been working on an app for about a year. I talked again to the rector and we are going to light a fire under them. As someone with a non-app phone (still) I needed to read this. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparing the *Church* for a mobile-first world by Derek Olsen</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/13/preparing-the-church-for-a-mobile-first-world/#comment-2497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Olsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The WordPress engagement with mobile is terrific when fully turned on. Thus, my blog has it; my privately-hosted WordPress web presence page doesn&#039;t... A fully engaged CMS like WordPress is the best tool for parishes if they know how to use it and---perhaps more importantly these days---if the diocesan IT guy understands it and can give some basic assistance.

And that brings me to my next point. Candidly, I wonder what the diocese does with our apportionment---I&#039;m rarely impressed with what I see from them. What *would* be a major help is a solid full-time diocesan IT person whose main function is spearheading web and mobile developments for the diocese, its parishes, and its outreach as a whole. 

Just as the monks had to understand the basic technologies of parchment production and illumination, modern church folk need to have at least a few in every bunch who know the basics of html. It&#039;s frankly a scandal that the national church doesn&#039;t have a fully indexed and hotlinked edition of the BCP on the web--the closest to it are volunteer efforts like Chad Wohlers&#039; page and www.bcponline,org. Development of stuff like this really ought to be a top priority for &lt;b&gt;mission&lt;/b&gt; in a digital age...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The WordPress engagement with mobile is terrific when fully turned on. Thus, my blog has it; my privately-hosted WordPress web presence page doesn&#8217;t&#8230; A fully engaged CMS like WordPress is the best tool for parishes if they know how to use it and&#8212;perhaps more importantly these days&#8212;if the diocesan IT guy understands it and can give some basic assistance.</p>
<p>And that brings me to my next point. Candidly, I wonder what the diocese does with our apportionment&#8212;I&#8217;m rarely impressed with what I see from them. What *would* be a major help is a solid full-time diocesan IT person whose main function is spearheading web and mobile developments for the diocese, its parishes, and its outreach as a whole. </p>
<p>Just as the monks had to understand the basic technologies of parchment production and illumination, modern church folk need to have at least a few in every bunch who know the basics of html. It&#8217;s frankly a scandal that the national church doesn&#8217;t have a fully indexed and hotlinked edition of the BCP on the web&#8211;the closest to it are volunteer efforts like Chad Wohlers&#8217; page and <a href="http://www.bcponline,org" rel="nofollow">http://www.bcponline,org</a>. Development of stuff like this really ought to be a top priority for <b>mission</b> in a digital age&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparing the *Church* for a mobile-first world by Paul Martin</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/13/preparing-the-church-for-a-mobile-first-world/#comment-2491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mobile First is the title of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abookapart.com/products/mobile-first&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;book&lt;/a&gt; by Luke Wroblewski. The concept is also discussed on Luke&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?933&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;. Jakob Nielsen&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.useit.com/alertbox/mobile-sites-apps.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alertbox&lt;/a&gt; has some interesting comments today on the issue of apps vs. mobile web sites. There are some very good resources there.

I don&#039;t own a smart phone. I can&#039;t afford the data plan right now. I certainly accept your reasoning on this, and I need to take another look at your cathedral&#039;s mobile site to see what you have done. As a non-mobile web user, I am curious about the use cases which would apply to the mobile user.

The major use case I can see is basic contact info for visitors, with perhaps a higher emphasis on maps and special services information. I can easily imagine someone who is visiting from out of town, or trapped in the office late at night and realizes that it is Ash Wednesday (or whatever) and where can I find a service close by? How about a mapping app which accesses the GPS info on the phone to customize a map and directions?

The major need here is for guidance and sharing of resources, especially for smaller churches without a staff of programmers in the congregation. I will be pushing our parish site towards a redesign in WordPress so that we can use plugins to address the mobile space. I think we may see a move toward CMS based approaches so that small parishes can leverage software work done by others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mobile First is the title of a <a href="http://www.abookapart.com/products/mobile-first" rel="nofollow">book</a> by Luke Wroblewski. The concept is also discussed on Luke&#8217;s <a href="http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?933" rel="nofollow">blog</a>. Jakob Nielsen&#8217;s <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/mobile-sites-apps.html" rel="nofollow">Alertbox</a> has some interesting comments today on the issue of apps vs. mobile web sites. There are some very good resources there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t own a smart phone. I can&#8217;t afford the data plan right now. I certainly accept your reasoning on this, and I need to take another look at your cathedral&#8217;s mobile site to see what you have done. As a non-mobile web user, I am curious about the use cases which would apply to the mobile user.</p>
<p>The major use case I can see is basic contact info for visitors, with perhaps a higher emphasis on maps and special services information. I can easily imagine someone who is visiting from out of town, or trapped in the office late at night and realizes that it is Ash Wednesday (or whatever) and where can I find a service close by? How about a mapping app which accesses the GPS info on the phone to customize a map and directions?</p>
<p>The major need here is for guidance and sharing of resources, especially for smaller churches without a staff of programmers in the congregation. I will be pushing our parish site towards a redesign in WordPress so that we can use plugins to address the mobile space. I think we may see a move toward CMS based approaches so that small parishes can leverage software work done by others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preparing the *Church* for a mobile-first world by Guy Butler</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/13/preparing-the-church-for-a-mobile-first-world/#comment-2490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy Butler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Case in point - 95% of the times I hit your site is from my iPhone...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case in point &#8211; 95% of the times I hit your site is from my iPhone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quick take on polity by Nick Knisely</title>
		<link>http://entangledstates.org/2012/02/09/quick-take-on-polity/#comment-2489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Knisely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is Paul - I guess I mean that our denomination has historical roots that include deep ties into the ruling structures. That&#039;s different than denominations like the Methodists, the Mennonites or the Baptists who were always kept outside of the power structures.

That difference seems to drive the way that other denominations here in America deal with our government. And we Episcopalians have learned from them. Which means we&#039;re different than parts of the communion where the Church of England experience is still pretty close to reality - like in the Commonwealth nations of Canada or Nigeria for instance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is Paul &#8211; I guess I mean that our denomination has historical roots that include deep ties into the ruling structures. That&#8217;s different than denominations like the Methodists, the Mennonites or the Baptists who were always kept outside of the power structures.</p>
<p>That difference seems to drive the way that other denominations here in America deal with our government. And we Episcopalians have learned from them. Which means we&#8217;re different than parts of the communion where the Church of England experience is still pretty close to reality &#8211; like in the Commonwealth nations of Canada or Nigeria for instance.</p>
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